There are so many conflicting stories and opinions in the press these days. And so many persuasive speakers and writers whose motives and honesty we have almost no way of judging. For this reason, I finally decided to personally investigate some of the claims made about President Trump in the press. In other words, I’ve decided to fact-check and logic-check the Fact Checkers.
Over the years, an organization called PolitiFact, a non-profit opinion arm of the Tampa Bay Times, http://www.politifact.com/ has hammered President Trump relentlessly over the veracity of his statements. I decided I would start with them.
PolitiFact’s mission is to ‘fact check’ statements by politicians and other public figures and to issue a “ruling” over whether the statement is true or not.
PolitiFact gives only the clearest and most egregious of lies its PANTS ON FIRE ruling, defined by PolitiFact as: The statement is not accurate and makes a ridiculous claim. PolitiFact pants on fire definition
In today’s post, I examine the first of twenty-one President Trump “Pants-on-Fire” statements as determined by PolitiFact. I did not cherry-pick these statements. This list was emailed to me by a good friend who endorses PolitiFact. I’m addressing the statements in the order they were sent.
Is President Trump a compulsive liar, as several of my friends have suggested? Or has the press been giving him a bum deal? By the time I’ve checked all twenty-one ‘pants-on-fire’ claims, I should know.
Below is the link to the PolitiFact website with its argument that President Trump egregiously lied when he said that Chicago had the strongest gun laws in the nation. Did he? PolitiFact is adamant he did.
I’ve read PolitiFact’s argument and below is my opinion
In the end, while attempting to drive home its point, PolitiFact only succeeded in trivializing the entire issue of guns laws and gun violence.
Does anyone doubt that Chicago has tough gun laws? Does anyone doubt that Chicago’s gun laws are up there with the toughest in the country? Even PolitiFact doesn’t dispute that. And yet, PolitiFact chooses instead to get bogged down in a discussion on whether Chicago has the toughest or second toughest, or third toughest laws in the country.
In fact, there are considerable differences in opinion as to where Chicago ranks in the list of toughest cities on gun crime. A person’s opinion on the point seems to rest on what weight they give the various laws. For this reason, it seemed even stranger to me that PolitiFact would waste its time on this.
This even appears to be a violation of PolitiFact’s own charter.
PolitiFact states on its website: “Is the statement rooted in a fact that is verifiable? We don’t check opinions, and we recognize that in the world of speechmaking and political rhetoric, there is license for hyperbole.” truth-o-meter/principles
PolitiFact also states: “To assess the truth for a numbers claim, the biggest factor is the underlying message.” truth-o-meter/article
Here again, PolitiFact violated one of its own principles. President Trump’s underlying message is that Chicago has really tough gun laws and still has a rising murder rate. Is President Trump’s point not still valid even if Chicago doesn’t have the absolute #1 toughest laws in the country?
Still, PolitiFact rates President Trump’s statement to be inaccurate, ridiculous, and deserving of their most caustic, pants-on-fire rating.
Well, I’ve already made my point about this PolitiFact argument, but, at the risk of being accused of ‘piling on’, here are some additional problems I found – not factual errors, so much as simple errors in logic and generally wide of the mark comments.
Problems with PolitiFact’s reasoning :
1. PolitiFact’s claim against President Trump positively screamed out for a simple answer, i.e., simply tell me the cities you think have stronger gun laws than Chicago, then list and compare the significant laws between them. End of story. Case closed. The fact that PolitiFact couldn’t/wouldn’t do this leaves me gobsmacked as to why they still insisted on calling President Trump a liar over his statement. I mean, if you can’t list the cities with stronger gun laws than Chicago then walk away!
2. In its opening argument, instead of answering the question which cities have stronger gun laws than Chicago, PolitiFact answered the question: Are Chicago’s gun laws today stronger than they were in 2010? Apparently not, but that doesn’t prove Chicago still doesn’t have the toughest gun laws in the nation. This is simple logic.
3. PolitiFact said that it cost ~$200 more to obtain a gun license in NYC than it does in Chicago. This is one of PolitiFact’s key arguments. However, it’s a pretty minor one given that guns themselves can cost $thousands.
4. PolitiFact tried using NYC’s longer gun-license processing period as an argument, however, the NYC processing time appears to be an administrative issue rather than a legal one.
5. PolitiFact argued that New York and six other states have stronger gun laws than Illinois without explaining what effect that had on cities within those states. Again, off the mark. President Trump never claimed that Illinois had the strongest gun laws.
6. PolitiFact stated that judges in Chicago gave felons in possession of a firearm four-year sentences when they could have given ten years, suggesting that Chicago judges were lax on enforcing gun laws. Okay, I have no reason to dispute this, but it is also off the mark. President Trump said that Chicago’s gun laws were the toughest in the nation, not that Chicago’s judges were the toughest in the nation.
7. PolitiFact mentions that New York and Los Angeles run their own concealed-carry permit process while Chicago does not. I checked this: In Chicago, the concealed carry process is handled by the state police. I’m not sure why PolitiFact considers this is a problem. They never say. Gun_laws_in_Illinois
8. I’m seeing a trend here: PolitiFact has the annoying habit of answering every question but the original one they started with.
9. Finally, in its entire argument, PolitiFact never actually names a city in America it believes has overall stronger gun laws than Chicago. I’m not making this up. Read the PolitiFact fact-check yourself.
All in all, PolitiFact didn’t make their case. Didn’t even come close. Which begs the question: who chose this issue? If this is an example of the most egregious lie they can pin on President Trump, PolitiFact is tacitly admitting they don’t have much to choose from.
In conclusion: For this, PolitiFact earns my “Artful Dodger” award. Throughout their response, they managed to dodge the very issue they themselves brought up.
Full disclosure: I’m left of President Trump on the issue of gun control. I believe there is ample room for toughening our nation’s gun laws without violating the Constitution. Here is an excellent article on the subject: reforms-gun-laws-actually-make-difference
In my next post, I will tackle the PolitiFact claim that President Trump lied when he said that repealing the estate tax would protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer.